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Bulletin TPI2026097

Found this piece of information on TPI2026096 bulletin, that I was looking for few days ago. It suggests complete opposite what VW Denmark have told me. This tells me that they are either not aware of this or that they are willingly trying to hide the problem.

This also tells that there is an issue, and that they cannot fix it at present, as they obviously don’t know what is wrong or causing the problem. But there is a problem, that is most important to me. This supports also those reports I already found online. Regarding China, Russia, India, Malaysia regarding extended/prolonged warranties for customers with DSG7 gearbox. Customers in China and Russia have received official apology letters, but in Europe they are hiding it from the customers.

Bulletin 2026097/1 issued 25.08.11. Transmission – Vibrations, jerking and clattering when changing 1 – 2 while accelerating.
1.4TSi / 7Spd DSG.

Customer’s remarks:
Juddering/Clattering in 2nd gear for 2 seconds accelerating through 5 – 10kph or when changing 1st to 2nd at low speed or when reversing.
Occurs once the car has warmed up.

Reason: 
Drop of friction value of multiple clutch.

Current situation:
Currently no effective repair possible. Repalcing the multiple clutch does does not effectively fix the complaint. There is no parts damage. Working on a solution.

Complaint not caused by the two-mass flywheel.

Postpone repairs until a solution is available.

Read more about problems in Australia as well. There are 43 pages on the topic on an Australian discussion forum, many users are reporting the same issue I have with my VW Touran. And yet, VW is telling me it’s completely normal. They need reality check! Normal is “smooth operation”, not having car in the shop, for 11% of the time. I did not buy a car to have it spend time in the shop.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f112/golf-7-speed-dsg-shudder-clutch-issues-45873.html

DSG7.com

Just used Google, Translate to read the description of the problem in Russian DSG7 owner complaint. Read more about it on DSG7.com (translated to english)
For documentation purposes, I am copying the description page from Russian complaint site, where they managed to get their claims acknowleded.
Volkswagen DSG-7 DQ200 0AM – collective claims

Friends! Daily work on the problem box DSG – ours and our partners (public officials and lawyers), and your support – have brought the first positive results. July 24th we received a letter from the representatives of JSC “Volkswagen Group Rus” as follows: (1) a guarantee of the diagnosis and repair free of charge at the box DSG-7 DQ200 0AM be extended to 5 years or 150 thousand km run, (2) it applies to all group brands (VW, Skoda, Seat), except for Audi. Scan the letter here . Present is a formal letter to the dealer if it is “not in the subject.” This is not kulants is the official warranty extension! Many thanks to all who supported us morally and financially. We also take out thanks to the concern “Volkswagen” for the thorough and detailed response. Unfortunately, however, our colleagues at Audi cars under the program were not included, although these expensive cars set the same gearbox DSG-7, with the same problems.

DSG-7 – the seven-speed robotized gearbox with double clutch DQ200 0AM, installed in the production of Volkswagen Group Rus .Over the lifetime of the box in the series (a / m 2008-11 onwards), its users faced with many faults .

Description of the main problems DSG -7 shown in official report on the repair and maintenance of a / m group Volkswagen (called TPI ) number 2026097:

vibration / shudder during acceleration by 2 transfer ;
jerks / vibration during acceleration by 2 transfer for about 1-2 seconds (for example, when passing obstacles or renewal dispersal between 5 and 10 km / h);
vibrations, jerks / shudder when switching from 1st to 2nd gear at low speed (not a single push);
jerk / shudder when starting at the back of the transmission .

It is valid for all the a / m all model years and explains design feature – namely, “sags friction multi-disc clutch” . TPI recommends replacing the clutch (for a / m Volkswagen, Skoda, etc. by unknown). There are also a number of other typical faults:

In slow motion, up to about 30 km / h, from the front of the car are heard knocks (vibration noise) – when driving on a strip of the Congress (“washboard”), on a cobblestone street or other public road bumps. Twitch when starting off, when the engine stalls several consumers. (TPI № 2023351)
The display instrument panel blinks transmission. Jerking the car. Box does not switch to the next gear. (TPI № 2024664)
Refusal automatic transmission. Inability to establish communication with the automatic transmission control unit tester. In the event log of some control units reported a communication error with the automatic gearbox control unit. (TPI № 2023768)
When repairing a transmission (replacing the unit Mechatronik, noise, etc.) found on the chip plugs switching solenoids. (TPI № 2026829)

There have also fault block “mechatronics”: a total failure, and the occasional break clutch while driving. This is a serious malfunction, which in some cases have led to situations where miraculously managed to avoid accidents.It is possible that cases of this kind, but it led to failure at this point is still unknown.

In fact, users and / m with DSG-7 were unwitting participants in the global testing of the new box. Thus, when buying a / m on possible malfunctions of the box to consumers was provided. As a result, some of the owners and / m production Volkswagen have 2-3 replacement parts alone transmission with mileage is 30-50 thousand km., and the problems begin to show with three thousand miles.

Unfortunately, in Russia , Volkswagen closes direct calls users of its products to authorized dealers . Instead of specific answers to questions about the essence of troubleshooting methods and timing of their removal, the Group makes the following responses: “Our company appreciates your car of choice” … “. On your question of …, we asked for comments on the Retail Network Ltd. “…”. ” , “You need to contact an authorized dealer, the staff are trained in a specialized training center company” Volkswagen Group Rus “and have the necessary experience and qualifications for service. ”

Some dealers, in turn, do not recognize the problems DSG box and do not remove them within the official reports on repair and maintenance and / m Volkswagen Group . There are many cases where the dealer explained above faults: the feature of the unit DSG; its adaptability; overheating in city mode at traffic lights, failure of the machine created by users. In this case, information about the nature of the problem reports of dealers is not given , is proposed to fill the form recommended by DSG problems . Often dealers claim state the absence of errors, computer readable, and offer to come to them for repair only when the machine is no longer ride .

The authors of this website offer those who have encountered problems DSG -7, tackle them together . Compiled claim , which can be signed online, and the signature will be legally correct. After collecting sufficient signatures complaint will be forwarded to Volgswagen Group Rus . forum of this site is intended to record all cases of failure , discuss problems and solutions. To the site will be brought to the attention of concern Volkswagen, other manufacturers and / m, specialized media and lawyers.

In China and US Volkswagen issues prolonged warranty on DSG gearbox…

I just read an article on Malaysian website (CBT) regarding problems with Volkswagen DSG7 gearboxes in China, from June 2012. Volkswagen has offered to prolong warranty on all their models with DSG7 in China, to 10 years or 160.000 km. The same thing has happened in 2009 for US customers. See document here. But I guess Europeans are not that lucky…

Article is especially interesting, as it mentions all those things I have been having with my car. So it is regarded as fault in the US and China, but Volkswagen Denmark and Volkswagen AG claims that this is “serial production standard”… But they still refuse to give me an official document stating this. So, no official acknowledgment, just excuses and coverups.